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Re: [time-nuts] Inside of FT1200-100

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Ed Palmer
Thu, Nov 24, 2016 2:02 AM

What value are you going to change it to?

Since the frequency is too low, you probably have to reduce the
capacitance somewhere.  This one is only 24 pf 5% tolerance.  It seems
unlikely that this by itself is setting the frequency.  It's rather
small and the tolerance is rather large.  Is there another larger
capacitor in parallel with this one?  This one might be the 'trimmer'
they used to get the frequency within adjustment range. I've seen that
idea used in my Sulzer 2.5  and Oscilloquartz 8601 - which both use the
AVX glass capacitors, by the way!  If this is the 'trimmer', then just
remove it.  That worked for my 8601.  I removed 91 pf that was in
parallel with 1200 pf to raise the frequency enough to bring it back
within adjustment range.

Ed

On 2016-11-23 5:04 PM, Christopher Hoover ch@murgatroid.com wrote:

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And of course it is a discontinued part.

Taking suggestions for a replacement.  COG(NP0)?

On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Christopher Hooverch@murgatroid.com
wrote:

Part number decoder on page 4 of:

http://www.mouser.com/catalog/supplier/library/pdf/AVXGlassDielectric.pdf

CY = glass
06 = case size
C = operating temp (-55 C to +125 C)
240 = 24 pF
J =  tolerance (+/- 5%)

What value are you going to change it to? Since the frequency is too low, you probably have to reduce the capacitance somewhere. This one is only 24 pf 5% tolerance. It seems unlikely that this by itself is setting the frequency. It's rather small and the tolerance is rather large. Is there another larger capacitor in parallel with this one? This one might be the 'trimmer' they used to get the frequency within adjustment range. I've seen that idea used in my Sulzer 2.5 and Oscilloquartz 8601 - which both use the AVX glass capacitors, by the way! If this is the 'trimmer', then just remove it. That worked for my 8601. I removed 91 pf that was in parallel with 1200 pf to raise the frequency enough to bring it back within adjustment range. Ed On 2016-11-23 5:04 PM, Christopher Hoover <ch@murgatroid.com> wrote: > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Inside of FT1200-100 > Message-ID: > <CACw0PsbZQaGoqFhbqBpLrU6+VR0MRtx_aR1bu00yDFokKW8FuQ@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > And of course it is a discontinued part. > > Taking suggestions for a replacement. COG(NP0)? > > > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Christopher Hoover<ch@murgatroid.com> > wrote: > >> >Part number decoder on page 4 of: >> > >> >http://www.mouser.com/catalog/supplier/library/pdf/AVXGlassDielectric.pdf >> > >> >CY = glass >> >06 = case size >> >C = operating temp (-55 C to +125 C) >> >240 = 24 pF >> >J = tolerance (+/- 5%) >> >