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MD
Magnus Danielson
Sat, May 13, 2017 11:02 AM

Fellow time-nuts,

As I came back home from my NYC trip, I found a nice little package in
the mail. It contained a T-shirt, pens and stickers. This is the added
benefit from becoming individual member to the Network Time Foundation.
I have made a donation prior to that.

What does Network Time Foundation do? Well, they maintain some of the
more important software that keep things running, including the NTPD code.

Why do I contribute this way? They are grossly underfunded, and this is
important stuff. While there are many ways to support the effort, I
decided I do have monetary means to do this.

It would be good if there where more companies supporting this activity too.

Read up on it here:
http://nwtime.org

Cheers & 73,
Magnus SA0MAD

Fellow time-nuts, As I came back home from my NYC trip, I found a nice little package in the mail. It contained a T-shirt, pens and stickers. This is the added benefit from becoming individual member to the Network Time Foundation. I have made a donation prior to that. What does Network Time Foundation do? Well, they maintain some of the more important software that keep things running, including the NTPD code. Why do I contribute this way? They are grossly underfunded, and this is important stuff. While there are many ways to support the effort, I decided I do have monetary means to do this. It would be good if there where more companies supporting this activity too. Read up on it here: http://nwtime.org Cheers & 73, Magnus SA0MAD
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Azelio Boriani
Sat, May 13, 2017 2:10 PM

Is the Network Time foundation the only one to have the NTP source
code? Is the Meinberg code (for example) a different one?

On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 1:02 PM, Magnus Danielson
magnus@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote:

Fellow time-nuts,

As I came back home from my NYC trip, I found a nice little package in the
mail. It contained a T-shirt, pens and stickers. This is the added benefit
from becoming individual member to the Network Time Foundation. I have made
a donation prior to that.

What does Network Time Foundation do? Well, they maintain some of the more
important software that keep things running, including the NTPD code.

Why do I contribute this way? They are grossly underfunded, and this is
important stuff. While there are many ways to support the effort, I decided
I do have monetary means to do this.

It would be good if there where more companies supporting this activity too.

Read up on it here:
http://nwtime.org

Cheers & 73,
Magnus SA0MAD


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Is the Network Time foundation the only one to have the NTP source code? Is the Meinberg code (for example) a different one? On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 1:02 PM, Magnus Danielson <magnus@rubidium.dyndns.org> wrote: > Fellow time-nuts, > > As I came back home from my NYC trip, I found a nice little package in the > mail. It contained a T-shirt, pens and stickers. This is the added benefit > from becoming individual member to the Network Time Foundation. I have made > a donation prior to that. > > What does Network Time Foundation do? Well, they maintain some of the more > important software that keep things running, including the NTPD code. > > Why do I contribute this way? They are grossly underfunded, and this is > important stuff. While there are many ways to support the effort, I decided > I do have monetary means to do this. > > It would be good if there where more companies supporting this activity too. > > Read up on it here: > http://nwtime.org > > Cheers & 73, > Magnus SA0MAD > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.
MD
Magnus Danielson
Sat, May 13, 2017 2:44 PM

Hi,

Meinberg is an active supporter in maintaining this implementation of
NTP and they use this code in their NTP implementations, as obvious from
their updates as NTPD updates occurs. The code is there, download it and
use it. However, remember that there is folks that need to work on it,
and they need to pay their bills to, and that is what in the end this is
about. Maintaining this code is grossly underfinanced, despite being a
crutial part to so many things. This is why I spend my private money to
support this effort. I wish I could convince more companies to
contribute, and I try to find ways to provide support for NTF such that
NTP and other projects keeps focused on maintaining code rather than
working double shifts.

You will find Meinberg among the company members of NTF.
You will find Meinberg to support in other ways too, as obvious from my
travels.

Cheers,
Magnus

On 05/13/2017 04:10 PM, Azelio Boriani wrote:

Is the Network Time foundation the only one to have the NTP source
code? Is the Meinberg code (for example) a different one?

On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 1:02 PM, Magnus Danielson
magnus@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote:

Fellow time-nuts,

As I came back home from my NYC trip, I found a nice little package in the
mail. It contained a T-shirt, pens and stickers. This is the added benefit
from becoming individual member to the Network Time Foundation. I have made
a donation prior to that.

What does Network Time Foundation do? Well, they maintain some of the more
important software that keep things running, including the NTPD code.

Why do I contribute this way? They are grossly underfunded, and this is
important stuff. While there are many ways to support the effort, I decided
I do have monetary means to do this.

It would be good if there where more companies supporting this activity too.

Read up on it here:
http://nwtime.org

Cheers & 73,
Magnus SA0MAD


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Hi, Meinberg is an active supporter in maintaining this implementation of NTP and they use this code in their NTP implementations, as obvious from their updates as NTPD updates occurs. The code is there, download it and use it. However, remember that there is folks that need to work on it, and they need to pay their bills to, and that is what in the end this is about. Maintaining this code is grossly underfinanced, despite being a crutial part to so many things. This is why I spend my private money to support this effort. I wish I could convince more companies to contribute, and I try to find ways to provide support for NTF such that NTP and other projects keeps focused on maintaining code rather than working double shifts. You will find Meinberg among the company members of NTF. You will find Meinberg to support in other ways too, as obvious from my travels. Cheers, Magnus On 05/13/2017 04:10 PM, Azelio Boriani wrote: > Is the Network Time foundation the only one to have the NTP source > code? Is the Meinberg code (for example) a different one? > > On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 1:02 PM, Magnus Danielson > <magnus@rubidium.dyndns.org> wrote: >> Fellow time-nuts, >> >> As I came back home from my NYC trip, I found a nice little package in the >> mail. It contained a T-shirt, pens and stickers. This is the added benefit >> from becoming individual member to the Network Time Foundation. I have made >> a donation prior to that. >> >> What does Network Time Foundation do? Well, they maintain some of the more >> important software that keep things running, including the NTPD code. >> >> Why do I contribute this way? They are grossly underfunded, and this is >> important stuff. While there are many ways to support the effort, I decided >> I do have monetary means to do this. >> >> It would be good if there where more companies supporting this activity too. >> >> Read up on it here: >> http://nwtime.org >> >> Cheers & 73, >> Magnus SA0MAD >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >
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Paul
Sat, May 13, 2017 3:04 PM

On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 10:10 AM, Azelio Boriani azelio.boriani@gmail.com
wrote:

Is the Network Time foundation the only one to have the NTP source
code?

The NTF/UDel NTP reference implementation of RFC-5905 is "open source".
Hence NTPsec which is a fork of UDel NTP unaffiliated with NTF*.

There are other inter-operable bits of code e.g. chrony (comprehensive) and
ntimed-client (incomplete PHK project initiated by NTF).

Is the Meinberg code (for example) a different one?

via: https://www.meinbergglobal.com/english/sw/ntp.htm

"The Meinberg NTP packages provide a GUI installer for Windows which
installs the NTP service and associated executable programs which have been
compiled from the original public NTP source code available at the NTP
download page at ntp.org
http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Main/SoftwareDownloads."
*https://www.ntpsec.org/announcement.html "NTF, which maintains the current
reference NTP implementation, has declined to participate in these efforts
to secure the NTP software"

On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 10:10 AM, Azelio Boriani <azelio.boriani@gmail.com> wrote: > Is the Network Time foundation the only one to have the NTP source > code? The NTF/UDel NTP reference implementation of RFC-5905 is "open source". Hence NTPsec which is a fork of UDel NTP unaffiliated with NTF*. There are other inter-operable bits of code e.g. chrony (comprehensive) and ntimed-client (incomplete PHK project initiated by NTF). > Is the Meinberg code (for example) a different one? > via: https://www.meinbergglobal.com/english/sw/ntp.htm "The Meinberg NTP packages provide a GUI installer for Windows which installs the NTP service and associated executable programs which have been compiled from the original public NTP source code available at the NTP download page at ntp.org <http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Main/SoftwareDownloads>." *https://www.ntpsec.org/announcement.html "NTF, which maintains the current reference NTP implementation, has declined to participate in these efforts to secure the NTP software"
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Gary E. Miller
Sat, May 13, 2017 6:38 PM

Yo Azelio!

On Sat, 13 May 2017 16:10:03 +0200
Azelio Boriani azelio.boriani@gmail.com wrote:

Is the Network Time foundation the only one to have the NTP source
code? Is the Meinberg code (for example) a different one?

There is a fork of NTP Classic, called NTPsec.  It is being more activly
worked on than NTP Classic and has many new features like ntpmon and
ntpviz.  It is readily available over git:

https://www.ntpsec.org/
https://github.com/ntpsec/ntpsec

RGDS
GARY

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Yo Azelio! On Sat, 13 May 2017 16:10:03 +0200 Azelio Boriani <azelio.boriani@gmail.com> wrote: > Is the Network Time foundation the only one to have the NTP source > code? Is the Meinberg code (for example) a different one? There is a fork of NTP Classic, called NTPsec. It is being more activly worked on than NTP Classic and has many new features like ntpmon and ntpviz. It is readily available over git: https://www.ntpsec.org/ https://github.com/ntpsec/ntpsec RGDS GARY --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 gem@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas? "If you can’t measure it, you can’t improve it." - Lord Kelvin
HS
Harlan Stenn
Sun, May 14, 2017 12:44 AM

You're almost funny, Gary.

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"Gary E. Miller" writes:

Yo Azelio!

On Sat, 13 May 2017 16:10:03 +0200
Azelio Boriani azelio.boriani@gmail.com wrote:

Is the Network Time foundation the only one to have the NTP source
code? Is the Meinberg code (for example) a different one?

There is a fork of NTP Classic, called NTPsec.  It is being more activly
worked on than NTP Classic and has many new features like ntpmon and
ntpviz.  It is readily available over git:

https://www.ntpsec.org/
https://github.com/ntpsec/ntpsec

RGDS
GARY
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You're almost funny, Gary. H -- "Gary E. Miller" writes: > Yo Azelio! > > On Sat, 13 May 2017 16:10:03 +0200 > Azelio Boriani <azelio.boriani@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Is the Network Time foundation the only one to have the NTP source > > code? Is the Meinberg code (for example) a different one? > > There is a fork of NTP Classic, called NTPsec. It is being more activly > worked on than NTP Classic and has many new features like ntpmon and > ntpviz. It is readily available over git: > > https://www.ntpsec.org/ > https://github.com/ntpsec/ntpsec > > > RGDS > GARY > -------------------------------------------------------------------------= > -- > Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 > gem@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 > > Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas? > "If you can=E2=80=99t measure it, you can=E2=80=99t improve it." - Lo= > rd Kelvin > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-= > nuts > and follow the instructions there. >