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Re: [time-nuts] Deaf Z3801

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John Franke
Wed, Nov 15, 2017 1:49 PM

Try:

Shut off power to the GPS receiver

Disconnect the GPS antenna downlead

Reapply power to the GPS receiver

Enter  :GPS:INIT:DATE 2017,01,01 (The only space is between DATE and 2017)

Reconnect the GPS antenna downlead and wait

John

 On November 14, 2017 at 10:43 PM Bob Bownes <bownes@gmail.com> wrote:

 I put my 3801 back in service the day before yesterday, or tried to. It’s been on the shelf for about a year (off).

 I powered it up, and while it sees a few sats, it will not acquire any. Changing to a known good antenna (off the NTP server) makes no difference.

 Anyone seen the behavior before? The location data is good, but the time/date are way out.

 Thanks!
 Bob

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Try: Shut off power to the GPS receiver Disconnect the GPS antenna downlead Reapply power to the GPS receiver Enter :GPS:INIT:DATE 2017,01,01 (The only space is between DATE and 2017) Reconnect the GPS antenna downlead and wait John > > On November 14, 2017 at 10:43 PM Bob Bownes <bownes@gmail.com> wrote: > > I put my 3801 back in service the day before yesterday, or tried to. It’s been on the shelf for about a year (off). > > I powered it up, and while it sees a few sats, it will not acquire any. Changing to a known good antenna (off the NTP server) makes no difference. > > Anyone seen the behavior before? The location data is good, but the time/date are way out. > > Thanks! > Bob > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >
BB
Bob Bownes
Thu, Nov 16, 2017 4:24 PM

Thanks John.

When I do this, I get the E-222 error indicating 'Data out of range'.

Tried several formats, trailing';', etc.

Here's what I get:
scpi > :GPS:INIT:DATE 2017,11,16
E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 17,11,16
E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 17,01,01
E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 2017,01,01
E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 2017,01,01;
E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 17,01,01;
E-222>

Even tried a :SYSTEM:PRESET, whic interestingly enough, does not reset the
location.

Bob

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 8:49 AM, John Franke jmfranke@cox.net wrote:

Try:

Shut off power to the GPS receiver

Disconnect the GPS antenna downlead

Reapply power to the GPS receiver

Enter  :GPS:INIT:DATE 2017,01,01 (The only space is between DATE and
2017)

Reconnect the GPS antenna downlead and wait

John

On November 14, 2017 at 10:43 PM Bob Bownes bownes@gmail.com wrote:

I put my 3801 back in service the day before yesterday, or tried to. It’s
been on the shelf for about a year (off).

I powered it up, and while it sees a few sats, it will not acquire any.
Changing to a known good antenna (off the NTP server) makes no difference.

Anyone seen the behavior before? The location data is good, but the
time/date are way out.

Thanks!
Bob


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Thanks John. When I do this, I get the E-222 error indicating 'Data out of range'. Tried several formats, trailing';', etc. Here's what I get: scpi > :GPS:INIT:DATE 2017,11,16 E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 17,11,16 E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 17,01,01 E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 2017,01,01 E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 2017,01,01; E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 17,01,01; E-222> Even tried a :SYSTEM:PRESET, whic interestingly enough, does not reset the location. Bob On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 8:49 AM, John Franke <jmfranke@cox.net> wrote: > Try: > > > Shut off power to the GPS receiver > > Disconnect the GPS antenna downlead > > Reapply power to the GPS receiver > > Enter *:GPS:INIT:DATE 2017,01,01* (The only space is between DATE and > 2017) > > Reconnect the GPS antenna downlead and wait > > > John > > On November 14, 2017 at 10:43 PM Bob Bownes <bownes@gmail.com> wrote: > > I put my 3801 back in service the day before yesterday, or tried to. It’s > been on the shelf for about a year (off). > > I powered it up, and while it sees a few sats, it will not acquire any. > Changing to a known good antenna (off the NTP server) makes no difference. > > Anyone seen the behavior before? The location data is good, but the > time/date are way out. > > Thanks! > Bob > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > >
BK
Bob kb8tq
Thu, Nov 16, 2017 4:42 PM

Hi

One thing that has faked me out on SCPI - they cache error messages. You
have to dump them all before you try something.

Bob

On Nov 16, 2017, at 11:24 AM, Bob Bownes bownes@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks John.

When I do this, I get the E-222 error indicating 'Data out of range'.

Tried several formats, trailing';', etc.

Here's what I get:
scpi > :GPS:INIT:DATE 2017,11,16
E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 17,11,16
E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 17,01,01
E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 2017,01,01
E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 2017,01,01;
E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 17,01,01;
E-222>

Even tried a :SYSTEM:PRESET, whic interestingly enough, does not reset the
location.

Bob

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 8:49 AM, John Franke jmfranke@cox.net wrote:

Try:

Shut off power to the GPS receiver

Disconnect the GPS antenna downlead

Reapply power to the GPS receiver

Enter  :GPS:INIT:DATE 2017,01,01 (The only space is between DATE and
2017)

Reconnect the GPS antenna downlead and wait

John

On November 14, 2017 at 10:43 PM Bob Bownes bownes@gmail.com wrote:

I put my 3801 back in service the day before yesterday, or tried to. It’s
been on the shelf for about a year (off).

I powered it up, and while it sees a few sats, it will not acquire any.
Changing to a known good antenna (off the NTP server) makes no difference.

Anyone seen the behavior before? The location data is good, but the
time/date are way out.

Thanks!
Bob


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Hi One thing that has faked me out on SCPI - they cache error messages. You have to dump them all before you try something. Bob > On Nov 16, 2017, at 11:24 AM, Bob Bownes <bownes@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thanks John. > > When I do this, I get the E-222 error indicating 'Data out of range'. > > Tried several formats, trailing';', etc. > > Here's what I get: > scpi > :GPS:INIT:DATE 2017,11,16 > E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 17,11,16 > E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 17,01,01 > E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 2017,01,01 > E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 2017,01,01; > E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 17,01,01; > E-222> > > Even tried a :SYSTEM:PRESET, whic interestingly enough, does not reset the > location. > > Bob > > On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 8:49 AM, John Franke <jmfranke@cox.net> wrote: > >> Try: >> >> >> Shut off power to the GPS receiver >> >> Disconnect the GPS antenna downlead >> >> Reapply power to the GPS receiver >> >> Enter *:GPS:INIT:DATE 2017,01,01* (The only space is between DATE and >> 2017) >> >> Reconnect the GPS antenna downlead and wait >> >> >> John >> >> On November 14, 2017 at 10:43 PM Bob Bownes <bownes@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I put my 3801 back in service the day before yesterday, or tried to. It’s >> been on the shelf for about a year (off). >> >> I powered it up, and while it sees a few sats, it will not acquire any. >> Changing to a known good antenna (off the NTP server) makes no difference. >> >> Anyone seen the behavior before? The location data is good, but the >> time/date are way out. >> >> Thanks! >> Bob >> >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ >> mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. >> >> > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.
BB
Bob Bownes
Thu, Nov 16, 2017 5:26 PM

Yup. tried that too.

The system won't let me set the date after 23:59:59 Dec 12,2007

On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 11:42 AM, Bob kb8tq kb8tq@n1k.org wrote:

Hi

One thing that has faked me out on SCPI - they cache error messages. You
have to dump them all before you try something.

Bob

On Nov 16, 2017, at 11:24 AM, Bob Bownes bownes@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks John.

When I do this, I get the E-222 error indicating 'Data out of range'.

Tried several formats, trailing';', etc.

Here's what I get:
scpi > :GPS:INIT:DATE 2017,11,16
E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 17,11,16
E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 17,01,01
E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 2017,01,01
E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 2017,01,01;
E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 17,01,01;
E-222>

Even tried a :SYSTEM:PRESET, whic interestingly enough, does not reset

the

location.

Bob

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 8:49 AM, John Franke jmfranke@cox.net wrote:

Try:

Shut off power to the GPS receiver

Disconnect the GPS antenna downlead

Reapply power to the GPS receiver

Enter  :GPS:INIT:DATE 2017,01,01 (The only space is between DATE and
2017)

Reconnect the GPS antenna downlead and wait

John

On November 14, 2017 at 10:43 PM Bob Bownes bownes@gmail.com wrote:

I put my 3801 back in service the day before yesterday, or tried to.

It’s

been on the shelf for about a year (off).

I powered it up, and while it sees a few sats, it will not acquire any.
Changing to a known good antenna (off the NTP server) makes no

difference.

Anyone seen the behavior before? The location data is good, but the
time/date are way out.

Thanks!
Bob


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Yup. tried that too. The system won't let me set the date after 23:59:59 Dec 12,2007 On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 11:42 AM, Bob kb8tq <kb8tq@n1k.org> wrote: > Hi > > One thing that has faked me out on SCPI - they cache error messages. You > have to dump them all before you try something. > > Bob > > > On Nov 16, 2017, at 11:24 AM, Bob Bownes <bownes@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Thanks John. > > > > When I do this, I get the E-222 error indicating 'Data out of range'. > > > > Tried several formats, trailing';', etc. > > > > Here's what I get: > > scpi > :GPS:INIT:DATE 2017,11,16 > > E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 17,11,16 > > E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 17,01,01 > > E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 2017,01,01 > > E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 2017,01,01; > > E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 17,01,01; > > E-222> > > > > Even tried a :SYSTEM:PRESET, whic interestingly enough, does not reset > the > > location. > > > > Bob > > > > On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 8:49 AM, John Franke <jmfranke@cox.net> wrote: > > > >> Try: > >> > >> > >> Shut off power to the GPS receiver > >> > >> Disconnect the GPS antenna downlead > >> > >> Reapply power to the GPS receiver > >> > >> Enter *:GPS:INIT:DATE 2017,01,01* (The only space is between DATE and > >> 2017) > >> > >> Reconnect the GPS antenna downlead and wait > >> > >> > >> John > >> > >> On November 14, 2017 at 10:43 PM Bob Bownes <bownes@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> I put my 3801 back in service the day before yesterday, or tried to. > It’s > >> been on the shelf for about a year (off). > >> > >> I powered it up, and while it sees a few sats, it will not acquire any. > >> Changing to a known good antenna (off the NTP server) makes no > difference. > >> > >> Anyone seen the behavior before? The location data is good, but the > >> time/date are way out. > >> > >> Thanks! > >> Bob > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > >> mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > >> and follow the instructions there. > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > and follow the instructions there. > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >
BB
Bob Bownes
Thu, Nov 16, 2017 7:54 PM

However, setting it to 23:59:59 Dec 12,2007 and leaving t alone for an hour
or two seems to have done the trick.

Thanks folks! Off to look at adev/pn of the $7 GPS boards I found with
10MHz out. Plots soon.

Bob

On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 12:26 PM, Bob Bownes bownes@gmail.com wrote:

Yup. tried that too.

The system won't let me set the date after 23:59:59 Dec 12,2007

On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 11:42 AM, Bob kb8tq kb8tq@n1k.org wrote:

Hi

One thing that has faked me out on SCPI - they cache error messages. You
have to dump them all before you try something.

Bob

On Nov 16, 2017, at 11:24 AM, Bob Bownes bownes@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks John.

When I do this, I get the E-222 error indicating 'Data out of range'.

Tried several formats, trailing';', etc.

Here's what I get:
scpi > :GPS:INIT:DATE 2017,11,16
E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 17,11,16
E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 17,01,01
E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 2017,01,01
E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 2017,01,01;
E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 17,01,01;
E-222>

Even tried a :SYSTEM:PRESET, whic interestingly enough, does not reset

the

location.

Bob

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 8:49 AM, John Franke jmfranke@cox.net wrote:

Try:

Shut off power to the GPS receiver

Disconnect the GPS antenna downlead

Reapply power to the GPS receiver

Enter  :GPS:INIT:DATE 2017,01,01 (The only space is between DATE and
2017)

Reconnect the GPS antenna downlead and wait

John

On November 14, 2017 at 10:43 PM Bob Bownes bownes@gmail.com wrote:

I put my 3801 back in service the day before yesterday, or tried to.

It’s

been on the shelf for about a year (off).

I powered it up, and while it sees a few sats, it will not acquire any.
Changing to a known good antenna (off the NTP server) makes no

difference.

Anyone seen the behavior before? The location data is good, but the
time/date are way out.

Thanks!
Bob


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However, setting it to 23:59:59 Dec 12,2007 and leaving t alone for an hour or two seems to have done the trick. Thanks folks! Off to look at adev/pn of the $7 GPS boards I found with 10MHz out. Plots soon. Bob On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 12:26 PM, Bob Bownes <bownes@gmail.com> wrote: > Yup. tried that too. > > The system won't let me set the date after 23:59:59 Dec 12,2007 > > > > On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 11:42 AM, Bob kb8tq <kb8tq@n1k.org> wrote: > >> Hi >> >> One thing that has faked me out on SCPI - they cache error messages. You >> have to dump them all before you try something. >> >> Bob >> >> > On Nov 16, 2017, at 11:24 AM, Bob Bownes <bownes@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > Thanks John. >> > >> > When I do this, I get the E-222 error indicating 'Data out of range'. >> > >> > Tried several formats, trailing';', etc. >> > >> > Here's what I get: >> > scpi > :GPS:INIT:DATE 2017,11,16 >> > E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 17,11,16 >> > E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 17,01,01 >> > E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 2017,01,01 >> > E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 2017,01,01; >> > E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 17,01,01; >> > E-222> >> > >> > Even tried a :SYSTEM:PRESET, whic interestingly enough, does not reset >> the >> > location. >> > >> > Bob >> > >> > On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 8:49 AM, John Franke <jmfranke@cox.net> wrote: >> > >> >> Try: >> >> >> >> >> >> Shut off power to the GPS receiver >> >> >> >> Disconnect the GPS antenna downlead >> >> >> >> Reapply power to the GPS receiver >> >> >> >> Enter *:GPS:INIT:DATE 2017,01,01* (The only space is between DATE and >> >> 2017) >> >> >> >> Reconnect the GPS antenna downlead and wait >> >> >> >> >> >> John >> >> >> >> On November 14, 2017 at 10:43 PM Bob Bownes <bownes@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> I put my 3801 back in service the day before yesterday, or tried to. >> It’s >> >> been on the shelf for about a year (off). >> >> >> >> I powered it up, and while it sees a few sats, it will not acquire any. >> >> Changing to a known good antenna (off the NTP server) makes no >> difference. >> >> >> >> Anyone seen the behavior before? The location data is good, but the >> >> time/date are way out. >> >> >> >> Thanks! >> >> Bob >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ >> >> mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> >> and follow the instructions there. >> >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/m >> ailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> > and follow the instructions there. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/m >> ailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. >> > >