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Tom Van Baak
Tue, Feb 27, 2018 4:04 AM
Bert's M100 Rb teardown photos are now here:
http://leapsecond.com/bert/m100.htm
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Subject: [time-nuts] FRK
We have pictures of the guts of a M100 the file is 1.8 M off list or permission to post
Bert Kehren
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Bert's M100 Rb teardown photos are now here:
http://leapsecond.com/bert/m100.htm
/tvb
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To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" <time-nuts@febo.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2018 6:05 AM
Subject: [time-nuts] FRK
We have pictures of the guts of a M100 the file is 1.8 M off list or permission to post
Bert Kehren
Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
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Attila Kinali
Tue, Feb 27, 2018 10:30 AM
For those, who would like to see the rest of M100/FRK,
I just took pictures of my FRK-L that was sitting on my
desk for way too long:
http://time.kinali.ch/Efratom_FRK-L/
Yes, there are only the pictures of the four PCBs from outside.
I didn't want to take the FRK further appart, as that would
require a soldering iron, and I really should be doing something
else.
Attila Kinali
--
It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All
the prosperity and technological sophistication in the world is of no
use without that foundation.
-- Miss Matheson, The Diamond Age, Neil Stephenson
On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 20:04:56 -0800
"Tom Van Baak" <tvb@LeapSecond.com> wrote:
> Bert's M100 Rb teardown photos are now here:
>
> http://leapsecond.com/bert/m100.htm
For those, who would like to see the rest of M100/FRK,
I just took pictures of my FRK-L that was sitting on my
desk for way too long:
http://time.kinali.ch/Efratom_FRK-L/
Yes, there are only the pictures of the four PCBs from outside.
I didn't want to take the FRK further appart, as that would
require a soldering iron, and I really should be doing something
else.
Attila Kinali
--
It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All
the prosperity and technological sophistication in the world is of no
use without that foundation.
-- Miss Matheson, The Diamond Age, Neil Stephenson
E
ewkehren
Tue, Feb 27, 2018 10:51 AM
Thank you Attila, I have seen many FRK`and M 100 but not one like yours. Some boards are very different and it is very difficult to get proper documentation.Bert Kehren
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-------- Original message --------From: Attila Kinali attila@kinali.ch Date: 2/27/18 5:30 AM (GMT-05:00) To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] FRK
On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 20:04:56 -0800
"Tom Van Baak" tvb@LeapSecond.com wrote:
For those, who would like to see the rest of M100/FRK,
I just took pictures of my FRK-L that was sitting on my
desk for way too long:
http://time.kinali.ch/Efratom_FRK-L/
Yes, there are only the pictures of the four PCBs from outside.
I didn't want to take the FRK further appart, as that would
require a soldering iron, and I really should be doing something
else.
Attila Kinali
--
It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All
the prosperity and technological sophistication in the world is of no
use without that foundation.
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Thank you Attila, I have seen many FRK`and M 100 but not one like yours. Some boards are very different and it is very difficult to get proper documentation.Bert Kehren
Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
-------- Original message --------From: Attila Kinali <attila@kinali.ch> Date: 2/27/18 5:30 AM (GMT-05:00) To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <time-nuts@febo.com> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] FRK
On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 20:04:56 -0800
"Tom Van Baak" <tvb@LeapSecond.com> wrote:
> Bert's M100 Rb teardown photos are now here:
>
> http://leapsecond.com/bert/m100.htm
For those, who would like to see the rest of M100/FRK,
I just took pictures of my FRK-L that was sitting on my
desk for way too long:
http://time.kinali.ch/Efratom_FRK-L/
Yes, there are only the pictures of the four PCBs from outside.
I didn't want to take the FRK further appart, as that would
require a soldering iron, and I really should be doing something
else.
Attila Kinali
--
It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All
the prosperity and technological sophistication in the world is of no
use without that foundation.
-- Miss Matheson, The Diamond Age, Neil Stephenson
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ew
Tue, Feb 27, 2018 11:06 AM
Thank you Tom, for the record the pictures where taken by Juerg Koegel my partner in crime
Bert Kehren
In a message dated 2/26/2018 11:05:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, tvb@LeapSecond.com writes:
Bert's M100 Rb teardown photos are now here:
http://leapsecond.com/bert/m100.htm
/tvb
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Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2018 6:05 AM
Subject: [time-nuts] FRK
We have pictures of the guts of a M100 the file is 1.8 M off list or permission to post
Bert Kehren
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Thank you Tom, for the record the pictures where taken by Juerg Koegel my partner in crime
Bert Kehren
In a message dated 2/26/2018 11:05:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, tvb@LeapSecond.com writes:
Bert's M100 Rb teardown photos are now here:
http://leapsecond.com/bert/m100.htm
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To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" <time-nuts@febo.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2018 6:05 AM
Subject: [time-nuts] FRK
We have pictures of the guts of a M100 the file is 1.8 M off list or permission to post
Bert Kehren
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Bob kb8tq
Tue, Feb 27, 2018 2:01 PM
Hi
Judging from the date codes on some of the parts, I’d guess that
your FRL-L is from 1982. I’m only looking at a few parts that came
through well enough in the picture to read (and that have what look
like rational date codes …).
Bob
For those, who would like to see the rest of M100/FRK,
I just took pictures of my FRK-L that was sitting on my
desk for way too long:
http://time.kinali.ch/Efratom_FRK-L/
Yes, there are only the pictures of the four PCBs from outside.
I didn't want to take the FRK further appart, as that would
require a soldering iron, and I really should be doing something
else.
Attila Kinali
--
It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All
the prosperity and technological sophistication in the world is of no
use without that foundation.
-- Miss Matheson, The Diamond Age, Neil Stephenson
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Hi
Judging from the date codes on some of the parts, I’d guess that
your FRL-L is from 1982. I’m only looking at a few parts that came
through well enough in the picture to read (and that have what look
like rational date codes …).
Bob
> On Feb 27, 2018, at 5:30 AM, Attila Kinali <attila@kinali.ch> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 20:04:56 -0800
> "Tom Van Baak" <tvb@LeapSecond.com> wrote:
>
>> Bert's M100 Rb teardown photos are now here:
>>
>> http://leapsecond.com/bert/m100.htm
>
> For those, who would like to see the rest of M100/FRK,
> I just took pictures of my FRK-L that was sitting on my
> desk for way too long:
>
> http://time.kinali.ch/Efratom_FRK-L/
>
> Yes, there are only the pictures of the four PCBs from outside.
> I didn't want to take the FRK further appart, as that would
> require a soldering iron, and I really should be doing something
> else.
>
> Attila Kinali
>
> --
> It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All
> the prosperity and technological sophistication in the world is of no
> use without that foundation.
> -- Miss Matheson, The Diamond Age, Neil Stephenson
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paul swed
Tue, Feb 27, 2018 2:26 PM
Thanks for the pictures.
Curious on the rb lamp.
There seem to be 2 pins from the side. Is that a lamp start igniter?
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL
On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 9:01 AM, Bob kb8tq kb8tq@n1k.org wrote:
Hi
Judging from the date codes on some of the parts, I’d guess that
your FRL-L is from 1982. I’m only looking at a few parts that came
through well enough in the picture to read (and that have what look
like rational date codes …).
Bob
For those, who would like to see the rest of M100/FRK,
I just took pictures of my FRK-L that was sitting on my
desk for way too long:
http://time.kinali.ch/Efratom_FRK-L/
Yes, there are only the pictures of the four PCBs from outside.
I didn't want to take the FRK further appart, as that would
require a soldering iron, and I really should be doing something
else.
Attila Kinali
--
It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All
the prosperity and technological sophistication in the world is of no
use without that foundation.
-- Miss Matheson, The Diamond Age, Neil Stephenson
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Thanks for the pictures.
Curious on the rb lamp.
There seem to be 2 pins from the side. Is that a lamp start igniter?
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL
On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 9:01 AM, Bob kb8tq <kb8tq@n1k.org> wrote:
> Hi
>
> Judging from the date codes on some of the parts, I’d guess that
> your FRL-L is from 1982. I’m only looking at a few parts that came
> through well enough in the picture to read (and that have what look
> like rational date codes …).
>
> Bob
>
> > On Feb 27, 2018, at 5:30 AM, Attila Kinali <attila@kinali.ch> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 20:04:56 -0800
> > "Tom Van Baak" <tvb@LeapSecond.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Bert's M100 Rb teardown photos are now here:
> >>
> >> http://leapsecond.com/bert/m100.htm
> >
> > For those, who would like to see the rest of M100/FRK,
> > I just took pictures of my FRK-L that was sitting on my
> > desk for way too long:
> >
> > http://time.kinali.ch/Efratom_FRK-L/
> >
> > Yes, there are only the pictures of the four PCBs from outside.
> > I didn't want to take the FRK further appart, as that would
> > require a soldering iron, and I really should be doing something
> > else.
> >
> > Attila Kinali
> >
> > --
> > It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All
> > the prosperity and technological sophistication in the world is of no
> > use without that foundation.
> > -- Miss Matheson, The Diamond Age, Neil Stephenson
> > _______________________________________________
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ewkehren
Tue, Feb 27, 2018 3:52 PM
Which one are you talking aboutBert Kehren
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-------- Original message --------From: paul swed paulswedb@gmail.com Date: 2/27/18 9:26 AM (GMT-05:00) To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] FRK
Thanks for the pictures.
Curious on the rb lamp.
There seem to be 2 pins from the side. Is that a lamp start igniter?
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL
On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 9:01 AM, Bob kb8tq kb8tq@n1k.org wrote:
Hi
Judging from the date codes on some of the parts, I’d guess that
your FRL-L is from 1982. I’m only looking at a few parts that came
through well enough in the picture to read (and that have what look
like rational date codes …).
Bob
For those, who would like to see the rest of M100/FRK,
I just took pictures of my FRK-L that was sitting on my
desk for way too long:
http://time.kinali.ch/Efratom_FRK-L/
Yes, there are only the pictures of the four PCBs from outside.
I didn't want to take the FRK further appart, as that would
require a soldering iron, and I really should be doing something
else.
Attila Kinali
--
It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All
the prosperity and technological sophistication in the world is of no
use without that foundation.
-- Miss Matheson, The Diamond Age, Neil Stephenson
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Which one are you talking aboutBert Kehren
Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
-------- Original message --------From: paul swed <paulswedb@gmail.com> Date: 2/27/18 9:26 AM (GMT-05:00) To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <time-nuts@febo.com> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] FRK
Thanks for the pictures.
Curious on the rb lamp.
There seem to be 2 pins from the side. Is that a lamp start igniter?
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL
On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 9:01 AM, Bob kb8tq <kb8tq@n1k.org> wrote:
> Hi
>
> Judging from the date codes on some of the parts, I’d guess that
> your FRL-L is from 1982. I’m only looking at a few parts that came
> through well enough in the picture to read (and that have what look
> like rational date codes …).
>
> Bob
>
> > On Feb 27, 2018, at 5:30 AM, Attila Kinali <attila@kinali.ch> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 20:04:56 -0800
> > "Tom Van Baak" <tvb@LeapSecond.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Bert's M100 Rb teardown photos are now here:
> >>
> >> http://leapsecond.com/bert/m100.htm
> >
> > For those, who would like to see the rest of M100/FRK,
> > I just took pictures of my FRK-L that was sitting on my
> > desk for way too long:
> >
> > http://time.kinali.ch/Efratom_FRK-L/
> >
> > Yes, there are only the pictures of the four PCBs from outside.
> > I didn't want to take the FRK further appart, as that would
> > require a soldering iron, and I really should be doing something
> > else.
> >
> > Attila Kinali
> >
> > --
> > It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All
> > the prosperity and technological sophistication in the world is of no
> > use without that foundation.
> > -- Miss Matheson, The Diamond Age, Neil Stephenson
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Attila Kinali
Tue, Feb 27, 2018 4:21 PM
On Tue, 27 Feb 2018 09:01:31 -0500
Bob kb8tq kb8tq@n1k.org wrote:
Judging from the date codes on some of the parts, I’d guess that
your FRL-L is from 1982. I’m only looking at a few parts that came
through well enough in the picture to read (and that have what look
like rational date codes …).
Sorry, I didn't take much care when taking the pictures.
I can do better ones later.
But yes, the board has definitely an 80s vibe. The whole construction
is different then what I am used to from 80s electronics, though.
But I guess that's because it was designed and manufactured for
hi-rel applications.
Attila Kinali
--
It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All
the prosperity and technological sophistication in the world is of no
use without that foundation.
-- Miss Matheson, The Diamond Age, Neil Stephenson
On Tue, 27 Feb 2018 09:01:31 -0500
Bob kb8tq <kb8tq@n1k.org> wrote:
> Judging from the date codes on some of the parts, I’d guess that
> your FRL-L is from 1982. I’m only looking at a few parts that came
> through well enough in the picture to read (and that have what look
> like rational date codes …).
Sorry, I didn't take much care when taking the pictures.
I can do better ones later.
But yes, the board has definitely an 80s vibe. The whole construction
is different then what I am used to from 80s electronics, though.
But I guess that's because it was designed and manufactured for
hi-rel applications.
Attila Kinali
--
It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All
the prosperity and technological sophistication in the world is of no
use without that foundation.
-- Miss Matheson, The Diamond Age, Neil Stephenson
PS
paul swed
Tue, Feb 27, 2018 6:45 PM
Bert what I assume is the FRK lamp. it has a few wires and then 2 pins out
of the side.
Unless those are for mounting the lamp.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL
On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 11:21 AM, Attila Kinali attila@kinali.ch wrote:
On Tue, 27 Feb 2018 09:01:31 -0500
Bob kb8tq kb8tq@n1k.org wrote:
Judging from the date codes on some of the parts, I’d guess that
your FRL-L is from 1982. I’m only looking at a few parts that came
through well enough in the picture to read (and that have what look
like rational date codes …).
Sorry, I didn't take much care when taking the pictures.
I can do better ones later.
But yes, the board has definitely an 80s vibe. The whole construction
is different then what I am used to from 80s electronics, though.
But I guess that's because it was designed and manufactured for
hi-rel applications.
Attila Kinali
--
It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All
the prosperity and technological sophistication in the world is of no
use without that foundation.
-- Miss Matheson, The Diamond Age, Neil Stephenson
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Bert what I assume is the FRK lamp. it has a few wires and then 2 pins out
of the side.
Unless those are for mounting the lamp.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL
On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 11:21 AM, Attila Kinali <attila@kinali.ch> wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Feb 2018 09:01:31 -0500
> Bob kb8tq <kb8tq@n1k.org> wrote:
>
> > Judging from the date codes on some of the parts, I’d guess that
> > your FRL-L is from 1982. I’m only looking at a few parts that came
> > through well enough in the picture to read (and that have what look
> > like rational date codes …).
>
> Sorry, I didn't take much care when taking the pictures.
> I can do better ones later.
>
> But yes, the board has definitely an 80s vibe. The whole construction
> is different then what I am used to from 80s electronics, though.
> But I guess that's because it was designed and manufactured for
> hi-rel applications.
>
> Attila Kinali
>
> --
> It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All
> the prosperity and technological sophistication in the world is of no
> use without that foundation.
> -- Miss Matheson, The Diamond Age, Neil Stephenson
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ewkehren
Tue, Feb 27, 2018 6:53 PM
PaulI have never seen a FRK or M 100 that did not have a screw iin lamp but Attila`s unit looks like nothing I have seen before, I am not a Corby but over time 20 units have passed through my hands
Bert
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-------- Original message --------From: paul swed paulswedb@gmail.com Date: 2/27/18 1:45 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] FRK
Bert what I assume is the FRK lamp. it has a few wires and then 2 pins out
of the side.
Unless those are for mounting the lamp.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL
On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 11:21 AM, Attila Kinali attila@kinali.ch wrote:
On Tue, 27 Feb 2018 09:01:31 -0500
Bob kb8tq kb8tq@n1k.org wrote:
Judging from the date codes on some of the parts, I’d guess that
your FRL-L is from 1982. I’m only looking at a few parts that came
through well enough in the picture to read (and that have what look
like rational date codes …).
Sorry, I didn't take much care when taking the pictures.
I can do better ones later.
But yes, the board has definitely an 80s vibe. The whole construction
is different then what I am used to from 80s electronics, though.
But I guess that's because it was designed and manufactured for
hi-rel applications.
Attila Kinali
--
It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All
the prosperity and technological sophistication in the world is of no
use without that foundation.
-- Miss Matheson, The Diamond Age, Neil Stephenson
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PaulI have never seen a FRK or M 100 that did not have a screw iin lamp but Attila`s unit looks like nothing I have seen before, I am not a Corby but over time 20 units have passed through my hands
Bert
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-------- Original message --------From: paul swed <paulswedb@gmail.com> Date: 2/27/18 1:45 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <time-nuts@febo.com> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] FRK
Bert what I assume is the FRK lamp. it has a few wires and then 2 pins out
of the side.
Unless those are for mounting the lamp.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL
On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 11:21 AM, Attila Kinali <attila@kinali.ch> wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Feb 2018 09:01:31 -0500
> Bob kb8tq <kb8tq@n1k.org> wrote:
>
> > Judging from the date codes on some of the parts, I’d guess that
> > your FRL-L is from 1982. I’m only looking at a few parts that came
> > through well enough in the picture to read (and that have what look
> > like rational date codes …).
>
> Sorry, I didn't take much care when taking the pictures.
> I can do better ones later.
>
> But yes, the board has definitely an 80s vibe. The whole construction
> is different then what I am used to from 80s electronics, though.
> But I guess that's because it was designed and manufactured for
> hi-rel applications.
>
> Attila Kinali
>
> --
> It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All
> the prosperity and technological sophistication in the world is of no
> use without that foundation.
> -- Miss Matheson, The Diamond Age, Neil Stephenson
> _______________________________________________
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